"In fact - "Allah" is the perfect word to describe the "One God" of monotheism." - Chaplain Yusuf Estes
Meaning of the word "Allah" in Arabic
elah - (Arabic) means 'god' or something to be worshipped
NOTE: The English word "god" did not exist until 1066 AD after the Norman invasion of the Saxxons.Therefore, the most appropriate word for "Almighty, The Most High God" should be "Allah." |
First of all, Islam depends heavily on the word: "Allah." Because Islam is the complete submission and obedience to Allah (God). The name Allah (God) in Islam never refers to Muhammad (pbuh) or to anyone or anything else which Allah has created, as many Christians may think; Allah is the personal name of God.
Why Do Muslims Say, "Allah?"
- He is the one God, Who has no partner.
- Nothing is like Him. He is the Creator, not created, nor a part of His creation.
- He is All-Powerful, absolutely Just.
- There is no other entity in the entire universe worthy of worship besides Him.
- He is First, Last, and Everlasting; He was when nothing was, and will be when nothing else remains.
- He is the All-Knowing, and All-Merciful, the Supreme, the Sovereign.
- It is only He Who is capable of granting life to anything.
- He sent His Messengers (peace be upon them) to guide all of mankind.
- He sent Muhammad (pbuh) as the last Prophet and Messenger for all mankind.
- His book is the Holy Qur'an, the only authentic revealed book in the world that has been kept without change.
- Allah knows what is in our hearts.
"Allah!
None has the right to be worshipped but He, the Ever Living, the One Who
sustains and protecs all the exists. It is Who has sent down the Book (Al
Quran) to you with the truth, confirming what came before it, and He sent
down the Taurat (Torah) & the Injil (Gospel)."
(Surah Ali
Imran: 2-3)
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If you mean to say that the Arabic word "allah" means "god" in the general sense, of course it does. However, if you mean to suggest that "Allah" is also the specific name of the creator God, then that is another discussion. God revealed his personal name long before 1066, and it wasn't Allah.
Robert you have nothing better to do but to jump from one topic to another without answering from previous once. Once you see that you cannot answer the questions you jump to another article and start making circles.
Robert I guess you never read the article. Its straight forward and if you don't get it i guess you got to go back to elementary school.
Ok, you can help me out since I am so dumb. Is Allah the general name for God, or is it the specific name for God?
Robert, I think Zack is explaining you that in "Born again Christian" article so why don't you stick to that instead of playing around.
abdullah,
I know that your Arabic is better than mine. Could you please explain to me here how the Arabic reads in verse 14. Thank you for your help.
Exodus 3:13 Then Moses said to God, "Behold, I am going to the sons of Israel, and I will say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you.' Now they may say to me, 'What is His name?' What shall I say to them?" 14 God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM"; and He said, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.'" 15 God, furthermore, said to Moses, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, 'The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you ' This is My name forever, and this is My memorial-name to all generations.
Robert, Once again you prooved me that you don't read my comments, didn't you read what I said before your comment.
I will inshaAllah give you one more chance. Regarding your question I will surely answer but I think its waste of time. Anyways, I will explain to you how the Arabic reads in verse 14, but first tell me two things that is
1) What language did Prophet Moses (PBUH) spoke and what language was Exodus written in?
2) Who wrote Exodus?
Simple questions and I am not changing the topics just want to get the references straight first.
abdullah,
Moses, who wrote Exodus, spoke and wrote Hebrew.
Now, my question still lingers for you, as a Muslim, who claims Allah is just God in Arabic. Just how does the Arabic translation of this passage read? What does it say?
Robert you said "Moses, who wrote Exodus, spoke and wrote Hebrew." Thats not right, see you don't know your book.
FYI: There is no evidence in the Book of Exodus that it was really written by Prophet Moses (PBUH). Exodus was written many centuries after the events. The fact is its an anonymous author now known as the Deuteronomist. Aah! as far as my memory goes in the article "Born again christian" you said "I do not believe the deutercanonical books have the same level of inspiration as the 66canonical books." So now tell me since Exodus is written by are Deuteronomist are you going trash this too?
abdullah,
It is fascinating to me that you don't believe Exodus to be written by Moses.
The Qur'an says [5.68] Say: O followers of the Book! you follow no good till you keep up the Taurat and the Injeel and that which is revealed to you from your Lord; and surely that which has been revealed to you from your Lord shall make many of them increase in inordinacy and unbelief; grieve not therefore for the unbelieving people.
So we see the Qur'an says that the Torah is legitamate, and yet you reject its authorship. What kind of game are you playing here abdullah? Whatever it is, now you can tell me how Exodus 3:14 reads in Arabic.
Robert you said "It is fascinating to me that you don't believe Exodus to be written by Moses." Well then can you proof me wrong? And if you cannot then I am right and what is the use of discussing something which we both believe came from unknown source and not reliable.
It's funny you quote Holy Quran [5.68], I say funny because again you have prooved me that you don't read my comments because we have already discussed this before and if you don't recall i can tell you but that does show something about you.
abdullah,
The Qur'an teaches that you should believe the Torah. Yet you argue with me anyway. It is obvious you are more interested in making yourself look good than seeking God.
As I have said before, and you haven't listened, you can't even prove what the name of the entity that gave Muhammad revelations. So you disingenuous search for "proof" is obvious to me. When you are ready to have a real discussion, let me know.
But for those who do want to know God, just ask Him, and He will come to you. It isn't magic. All you need to do is admit that you are not perfect, that you have fallen short of God's standards. Ask Him for His forgiveness that He has freely given you with payment provided by Himself through His Son, God in the flesh. Then just pray out loud (even to yourself) for God to save you, and He will.
9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
Robert you said "The Qur'an teaches that you should believe the Torah. Yet you argue with me anyway."
Like I said earliar this was replied before so I copy and paste the reply by br. Ahmed
Again, here the Noble Quran does not Claim that the "bible" is the Perfect and Pure Word of GOD Almighty. It definitely contains Divine Truth in it, but as we saw above, it also contains human-excrement. To filter out the Truth from falsehood in the bible, one must refer to the Noble Quran as the "Measuring Stick" or the "Perfect Standard and Balance". Let us look at what Allah Almighty Said in the Noble Quran regarding this:
"Miserable is the price for which they have sold their souls, in that they deny (the revelation) which God has sent down, in insolent envy that God of His Grace should send it to any of His servants He pleases: Thus have they drawn on themselves Wrath upon Wrath. And humiliating is the punishment of those who reject Faith. (The Noble Quran, 2:90)"
"And believe in what I reveal, confirming the revelation which is with you, and be not the first to reject Faith therein, nor sell My Signs for a small price; and fear Me, and Me alone. (The Noble Quran, 2:41)"
"And when there came to them an apostle from God, confirming what was with them, a party of the people of the Book threw away the Book of God behind their backs, as if (it had been something) they did not know! (The Noble Quran, 2:101)"
WOW! you are genius Robert once again how easily you are changing the topic. I asked you one simple question that is "Well then can you proof me wrong? and instead of answering me you jump to different topic. We all got your answer that is you had no clue that Exodus was written by unknown author and the closest it comes to is Deuteronomist, which in your know words you don't believe is reliable.
I really want to know your purpose of commenting on this site even after shameless losing all the discussions. All your sources or points are have no real substance to it. Dude do us all the favor keep quite. May Allah show you the straight path.
abdullah,
I am here to help you see the truth. You believe you have somehow beaten me in some kind of a debate. What you do not realize is that I am not involved in a debate. I have a personal relationship with God, so all your arguments, however clever or misguided, have no impact on me, but only bring shame on yourself.
God will judge you by own your standards. As it is written: 2"For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you."
1) You claim I cannot prove who wrote Exodus, yet you cannot prove who was giving Muhammad 'revelations'.
2) You claim the Bible has been corrupted, even though the Qur'an claims that Allah's word cannot be changed.
3) You claim the Bible has been corrupted, even though the Qur'an tells you to "keep up" the Torah. Why would you be instructed to be obedient to a corrupt book?
Now, I will ask you nicely again. What does Exodus 3:14 say when read in Arabic? This is the same Bible that Muhammad had in his day, the same Bible the Qur'an says was God's word, and the same word the Qur'an says cannot change.
1) You claim I cannot prove who wrote Exodus, yet you cannot prove who was giving Muhammad 'revelations'.
- Are you crazy or what here I am asking the person who got this book Exodus forget about how he got this revelation from we don't even know who wrote it, don't you get it dude, that alone make that book useless.
2) You claim the Bible has been corrupted, even though the Qur'an claims that Allah's word cannot be changed.
- AH! when in the world did I say that? Liar instead of putting your word in my mouth give the reference. What I might have said is the word of Quran cannot be changed because Allah says in Holy Quran that, does bible say that?
3) You claim the Bible has been corrupted, even though the Qur'an tells you to "keep up" the Torah. Why would you be instructed to be obedient to a corrupt book?
- This shows your knowledge if you have read the whole thing from word to word with historical point you won't say that.
All I want is the name of the Author who wrote Exodus and you make such a big deal and the reason behind is that you have no clue who did and for all that you are making yourself a fool and doing the best of changing the topic as usual. If you really have a personal relationship with God then why can't you simply ask him who wrote that Book because I can prove to you that Prophet Moses (PBUH) didn't write it.
abdullah,
All I want is some Arabic help, but you keep changing the subject. So be it.
1) By all means, feel free to prove that the entity claiming to give 'revelation' to Muhammad was named Jibril.
2) According to the Qur'an, the words of God cannot be changed, by ANYONE. Qur’an 006:034
“Rejected were the messengers before thee: with patience and constancy they bore their rejection and their wrongs, until Our aid did reach them: there is none that can alter the words (and decrees) of Allah. Already hast thou received some account of those messengers.”
3) Yes, abdullah, I agree the Qur'an in some places claims the Torah is be followed, and in other place it says it is not to be followed. If you are wanting to convince the Qur'an contradicts itself, you have done so.
By all means, if you think you can prove the Qur'an is lying by showing that someone else other than Moses was the one who brought God's word of the Torah, try to do so.
25 'At that time Jesus said, "I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants. 26 "Yes, Father, for this way was well-pleasing in Your sight."'
Sure I will prove you that the entity claiming to give 'revelation' to Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was named Jibril, but since I asked you the question first and it hasn't be solved yet lets get that straight then move on. Show me the proof that Prophet Moses(PBUH) wrote Exodus or accept that Bible is not 100% from God. It's a simple question and I need simple answer. By the way your opinion counts like a cow waste to me, I need proof.
abdullah,
I don't know what you would accept as proof. Would you accept the Qur'an?
[4.47] O you who have been given the Book! believe that which We have revealed, verifying what you have, before We alter faces then turn them on their backs, or curse them as We cursed the violaters of the Sabbath, and the command of Allah shall be executed.
Here the Qur'an says that the previous books, what we have, have been verified. Of course, there is no way you can ever prove the identity of the being that Muhammad spoke to.
abdullah, I have asked for some simple help with Arabic on verse 3:14. If you are unable to do this, I will ask other Arabic speakers. Just tell me that you refuse to answer.
Hahahahaha! all i want is proof of who wrote it "the author" and don't quote me from Holy Quran because Holy Quran says lot of things besides that. FYI: Its says Jesus (PBUH) is NOT son of God, it says previous copies have been corruppted by people, etc, why don't you see those too. You want to see what you like and ignore other stuff, you do it bible and know you want to do it to Holy Quran.
Why should i translate verse 3:14 when you and me both believe that its not a reliable source (check "Born again christian" were you said that)
abdullah,
It is evident you are more interested in winning a debate than knowing God.
You are correct that the Qur'an says lots of things. On this, we agree. As a Muslim, you are forced to believe the Qur'an, yet you yourself realize it contains contradictory passages.
I can take the Bible as 100% authoritative. You do not understand what the deutercanonical books are, which is why you think I have said something I have not said.
Don't worry about the Exodus passage. I will find someone else who speaks Arabic who will tell me how it reads. God has given you the free will to continue to ignore it.
Robert you said "It is evident you are more interested in winning a debate than knowing God." Really dude if that's true go and check my first comment were i told you to stick to a topic but as usual once you cannot answer my question or zack's question you run away and now you say its a debate, good job lying dude.
Robert you said "You are correct that the Qur'an says lots of things. On this, we agree. As a Muslim, you are forced to believe the Qur'an, yet you yourself realize it contains contradictory passages."
See who is talking the one who don't even know the authors of bible and when i question it you run away. Dude there is not a single religious book on the face of earth which give you more detail info as Holy Quran.
Robert you said "I can take the Bible as 100% authoritative. You do not understand what the deutercanonical books are, which is why you think I have said something I have not said.
100% authoritative with what? Just because you say it I and all of us should believe it, doesn't that sound like forcing without questioning.
Well if i don't understand deutercanonical books then neither do you because till today you didn't explain it to us.
Robert "Don't worry about the Exodus passage" Why? Is it because you can't proof me the author, well that's fine too I will be InshaAllah waiting for another useless comments of yours.
Now I am really think why in the world am i wasting my time with you when i can do a lot of other good things and explain Islam to other people with open minds.
If there is anyone who reads this blog who speaks Arabic, please let me know. I would like to understand the passage from Exodus 3:14 as it reads in Arabic with relation to God's name.
14 God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM"; and He said, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.'"
Before you translate I would recommend to ask my friend Robert the authenticity of that verse and the author who wrote it.
As a Catholic I too want the answer from you Robert, why you say "No, I do not believe the deutercanonical books have the same level of inspiration as the 66 canonical books." and now you are quoting from deutercanonical and when Abdullah is questioning you are running away like most Born again Christians missionaries who come and question us.
Dear anonymous,
As a Catholic, how could you come to believe Exodus is deutercanonical? If you do, you are not ready to discuss issues such as sola scriptura or finer theological differences. However, we can both agree that Moses wrote the Torah, and more importantly that Jesus is the Son of God who died on the cross, was resurrected, and by his atonement takes away the sins of the world.
Let me hear your story of salvation, and I will share mine with you.
Robert, I am sorry to inform to you that if cannot believe in all 72 chapters of Bible then you are no different from JW or any other sects which will be doomed. As a Christian how dare you tell me, St Paul, all other earlier Christians that those 6 chapters are not relevant? When did you become God to take things out from Bible and what is the difference between you or Abdullah? Atleast he is giving some kind of evidence and not like you who just take out things which you don't like and blindly follow those evil people who put those evil ideas in your mind. How dare you call yourself a christian when you don't believe what St. Paul and others believed in, that is, the 6 chapters? Either you are right or he (St. Paul) was right and one should be wrong so you choose which one is on the wrong side and let us all know.
anonymous,
Your attitude seems quite odd for someone who claims to follow Christ. I have never met a Catholic like you before. Tell me a bit about yourself and your beliefs.
May I know why you say so? Just because I speak truth you question my attitude. Why are you ignoring my question, I asked you a question just reply me or call yourself a Antichrist. YES! I said Antichrist because you are destroying the teaching of Christ by taking out the books of Bible.
Everyone if Robert doesn't reply my question which is "Do you believe in St. Paula or so called "born again christian" the he should be ignored because he is an Antichrist.
anonymous,
First, I don't know who St. Paula is. Second, I don't know what you mean about "6 chapters". I assume you mean the deutercanonical books, but I can't be sure, since they are not composed of "6 chapters". Third, I can't figure out if you know what the deutercanonical books even are, because you think Exodus is one of them. Finally, I have never met a Catholic before who took such umbrage over this issue.
I can't even figure out what your question is, so there is no way I can answer it.
If you want to discuss Biblical authenticity, first share you beliefs with me so we can both know where to begin. If you prefer to call me Antichrist instead, feel free to do so and we will start a conversation about the Antichrist. The Muslims here need to learn who he is too.
OH! Its a typo, I meant St. Paul and you now good, don't act naive because I have been following you comments and you are very well trained Missionary. My question to you is how many books were there when first Chruch was stabalisted? When did we started from 72books to 66 books and did Holy Spirit came to one of the Authours of Bible and said take out 6 books from the Bible?
To learn my beliefs go to any catholics site and learn I don't want to teach it you since you don't follow my Bible and you change and edit the word of God to make yourself happy. Tell me who gave you so called "Born again Christians" the right to take out 6 books from the Bible from when did you become God?
anonymous,
I am glad that your beliefs match those of the Catholic church. As you know, nothing compares to a personal relationship with God. I am interested in hearing about anyone's personal relationship with Jesus, and as a Catholic, since you have one, I would like to hear yours. I will share mine with you as well. The Muslims here should hear both of our testimonies. And as the Pope recently said, you are to be a Missionary to all those around you, so I am glad you will be willing to share.
Regarding the deutercanonical books, as a Catholic, you know the disagreement is over a few historical accounts in the Old Testament, and nothing more. You also know that a Protestant, I do not doubt the historical accuracy of those accounts, so there is no reason for discord. Also, as a Catholic, you recognize that there should be no doctrinal differences. For example, St. Jerome said the books were acceptable as a model of conduct, but no doctrinal views should be taken from them without confirmation from the protocanon. Also, as a Catholic, you know that the level of divisiveness in your notes doesn't match the admonition given us in 1 Corinthians 3.
Therefore, let's share our testimony, and then we can discuss the Septuagint, the Masoretic texts.
Robert who has all the manuscript, you or the catholic chruch.
You still didn't answer my simple question that is
"Tell me who gave you so called "Born again Christians" the right to take out 6 books from the Bible from when did you become God?"
If did take it out then are you telling me all the onces who followed in before you took them out were following lie.
I am kind of learning few things hear, go Anonymous. One quick info for Anonymous you will never get answers from Robert. If you don't get the answer from him that means he has no clue and his plan is to change the topic.
anonymous,
As a Catholic, you too, are born again, so I don't understand why you refer to me as a born again Christian when you are one as well.
Anyway, the question is who gave me the right to "take out" books of the Bible, as you say. Your question is obfuscatory because it isn't about me; it's about God. You aren't asking a meaningful question, but I will do my best to answer you anyway.
First, St. Paul defends the Masoretic text over the Septuagint in Romans 3:2, which we both know is inspired. "2 Great in every respect. First of all, that they were entrusted with the oracles of God."
Second, the deutercanonical books were not originally written in Hebrew. In and of itself, that doesn't matter, but it does give us pause to consider.
Third, and most importantly, Jesus testifies to what is Scripture. "5 from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the house of God;", which highly suggests the Bebrew canon is the correct one.
Also, you said "are you telling me all the onces who followed in before you took them out were following lie." No, I am not. I believe the historical accuracy of the books, so I don't quite understand your issue.
anonymous, I am still interesting in hearing you tell me about your beliefs about Jesus.
My question is obfuscatory? You are talking like Abdullah where he doesn't understand Trinity and tells us that he is obfuscatory.
Deutercanonical books were not originally written in Hebrew and that makes you pause to consider if it is reliable or not and when Abdullah says Exodus has an unknown author that make me pause to consider but it's strange that you don't feel like that. Do you know you are acting like a hypocrite. Like I said I have been following you and Abdullah for a long time and he gave some good points to consider regarding unknown authors but i noticed that you never paused but instead started arguing with him and now you pause to consider Deutercanonical books just because they were not originally written in Hebrew, what a joke.
Anonymous to tell the truth I am still "obfuscatory" about Trinity and to tell you truth I will understand 1+1+1= 1 but go ahead Robert answer Anonymous question. By the way Anonymous good question and analyzing. By the way I encourage you to read few article on Islamic view about God.
See Robert you are lost thats why you cannot answer my simple question. May God guide you.
So to 'win' an argument someone named Anonymous lies about being a Catholic and changes the subject? Robert made very good points. Allah is not mentioned in the bible and since Addullah claims the bible is corrupted it seems quite silly to attempt to use 'corrupted books' to prove the authority of Muhammad or Allah, who was only worshipped as a pagan god prior to Muhammad's 'revelations.'
I would also like to know if Allah is supposed to be a personal name for your god of if its similiar to a title, like Elohim which is a title.
"So to 'win' an argument someone named Anonymous lies about being a Catholic and changes the subject?'
Well for that you have to go and find out instead of blaming someone.
"Robert made very good points."
Good try Robert LOL
"Allah is not mentioned in the bible"
Go and read bible in Middle East and keep quiet after that.
"since Addullah claims the bible is corrupted it seems quite silly to attempt to use 'corrupted books' to prove the authority of Muhammad or Allah, who was only worshipped as a pagan god prior to Muhammad's 'revelations.'"
Robert good try, first its not Addullah, second who in the world said bible is 100% corrupt? FYI: its not 100% word of God either. Stop lying and your words in my mouth.
abduallah said: Go and read bible in Middle East and keep quiet after that.
abduallh, this is a great idea! Unfortunately, since I can't read Arabic, I will need some help from you. Could you read Exodus 3:14 in Arabic and help me understand the words used there? Thank you so much for this kind suggestion to help me.
See I knew it was you right after I read that commented "Robert made very good points." because only person who are on drugs can feel that after reading our discussion.
Dude you now admit that you have no clue who the authors of bible are and now you also admit you don't know Arabic, now I tell you that you don't know Islam or Prophet Jesus (PBUH) admit that too.
In the news, Indonesian Muslims are objecting to the use of the word Allah by Christians.
http://thejakartaglobe.com/home/attackers-fire-bomb-malaysian-church-over-allah-word-conflict/351540
Robert that's called Ignores on their part and same goes for you too, if you read the article you will understand why i said so.
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